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PRODIGY(R) interactive personal service         05/08/93        11:06 PM

         RELIGION
TOPIC:   LATTER-DAY SAINTS
TIME:    05/08  1:07 PM

TO:      ALL
FROM:    ANDREW MCGUIRE   (FKSP88A)
SUBJECT: UNITED ORDER

   Is there anyone out there in ProdigyLand who is aware of
{or participating in} any "United Order" type of economic
experiment?

   Beings it is becoming no easier to pay the expenses of
raising a family and educating ourselves, the old United
Order concepts seam to offer an attractive alternative to
many people.

   I would be interested in any info that my fellow
Prodigians can offer.


                                   \/ andy
                                   /\


PRODIGY(R) interactive personal service         05/08/93        11:10 PM

RELIGION
TOPIC:    LATTER-DAY SAINTS
TO:       ALL
SUBJECT:  UNITED ORDER
DATE:     05/08/1993


If you are inteerested in this topic, you might want to hop
on down to Mormo{Wiccan.  It seems that the United Order
concept is a little more complicated than we once thought.

                      proclus


PRODIGY(R) interactive personal service         06/25/93         6:29 AM

         RELIGION
TOPIC:   LATTER-DAY SAINTS
TIME:    06/24  9:25 AM

TO:      MELISSA WUNDERLY   (GKBD00B)
FROM:    MICHAEL LOVE   (BXXF11A)
SUBJECT: COOPERATIVES{PROCLUS

Melissa

Surprise!  Many people don't realize the upshot of the
Wiccan parallels and the Nauvoo period.  It is simply that
there is a dimension of spirituality that can only be
obtained through close, interpersonal interactions.
Spiritual intimacy, what many Mormons in an institutional
Church are longing for, can best be obtained through
sharing.  What do we share; well water, groceries, feul,
shelter, information, and ritual.

Many have engaged in ritual circles in the temple, but few
realize that it was once an intimate experience practiced
among the closest of friends.  In Nauvoo, it was fellow
members of a cooperative, a group of four to six families
that formed the prayer circle group.  The ritual was done in
homes, of course.  This practice added a dimension of
spiritual intimacy to the other advantages of life in a
cooperative.

Melissa, there is a chance that Julie and I could return to
Arizona some day.  Let's get our families together.  I
consider you one of my closest friends, even though I have
never met you in person.  Perhaps we could consider entering
our families into a cooperative relationship at some remote
future date.  Julie and I are DEFINITELY going to be doing
this someday with somebody.  You are one of the people I
might consider doing it with.       What do you think?
                                                  proclus


PRODIGY(R) interactive personal service         06/25/93         6:30 AM

         RELIGION
TOPIC:   LATTER-DAY SAINTS
TIME:    06/24 11:49 AM

TO:      MICHAEL LOVE   (BXXF11A)
FROM:    KATHLEEN MCGUIRE   (FKSP88B)
SUBJECT: COOPERATIVES{PROCLUS

Proclus,
  But what about the obvious problems?

  First, and foremost, you will have people shouting
wife-swapping.  Probably the first thing someone thinks of
when the words 'communal household' are uttered.  So what if
it isn't true.                                       >>>
  From what I have heard, the prayer circle is an integral
part of a co-operative household.  But it isn't allowed
outside the temple anymore.  What do you do there?  This
would also inlude studying the scriptures as a group, which
is one of the markers of apostasy.

  Where do you live?  Are you all in one big house or a
group of homes or a combination of both?

  How do you share responsibilities?
  How do you work the finances?

  How do you solve the problem of the inevitable jealousies?

  What are your answers?


                                         -Kathleen

  In Perfect love, in Perfect trust.


PRODIGY(R) interactive personal service         06/25/93         6:30 AM

         RELIGION
TOPIC:   LATTER-DAY SAINTS
TIME:    06/25 12:45 AM

TO:      MICHAEL LOVE   (BXXF11A)
FROM:    ANDREW MCGUIRE   (FKSP88A)
SUBJECT: COOPERATIVES{PROCLUS

Mike,
   You haven't met Melissa.  I have.
   Do you know what you are getting yourself into?

   There are a couple of sides to this issue.  Let's look at
them in brief.
   Cooperative households are great money-savers.  By
sharing resources, families of meager income (c'est moi) can
afford such minor items as housing, education, child care,
health care, etc.  The down side is found in jealousy,
mooching, and how to split the capital if one of the
families leaves the unit.

   Sharing of duties can free up time for work, school,
entertainment, etc.  But how do you split the
responsibilities?  And what if someone reaps the benefits
and then splits without returning something to the system?
                                                   >>>>
   It will also be necessary for each of the families
involved to have a common religious and\or philisophical
base.  Would a good Mormon like Melissa trust her children
to the care of a good Wiccan like myself?  {{June 19th was
the first meeting of our coven, all you curious prodigoids.
All six of the male witches there were ex-or-quasi Mormon,
four are RM's. Something to wonder at......}}.  But assuming
the common ground is there, the cooperative experience
cannot help but strengthen a person's moral base.

   As for the sexual side of it, we are on dicey ground.
I would like to be able to say that it would be a non-issue,
but when you are thrown into close proximity with a person
of the opposite sex, especially one who tends to tweak your
neurons........
   {{Say hello to Julie for me.}}

   Then there is my final point.  It will be great to
network our computers so that we can exchange files more
easily for that book that we are going to write someday. But
will we really be able to mate your Mac with my IBM clone?
I'll have to have a word with some of my buddies at
Novell.  BTW, the place I work at is applying to become an
authorized Apple dealership.  Cool, man.

         More later, boys and girls.  I wasn't really
PRODIGY(R) interactive personal service         06/25/93         6:31 AM

planning a trip to the Prod tonight, but I am burning in
{{"testing," for all you non-techs}} Charlie Marston's new
monitor, and I have to do SOMETHING to put it through its
paces.  Looks great.  Charlie will love it.  Samtron 441V.

                                             \/ Andy
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